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Dialogue of Silvynne and Peregrynne (Author: H. C.)

Book 4

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The fourthe and last booke, intreateth of matters towching the Comon weale of the Countrie (and where it hath contynued in the beste sorte: and how decayed againe, withe other necessarie noates concerninge the recouery of the same: with a declaracion of voluntary rebelles startinge owt, who hath bene maynteigned by her maiesties purse, a longe tyme togither.

Silvyn

My verry good brother: (which pardonne craved) in respect I vndertake to be a begynner, and the last that spake, yet presvminge somuch vppon you zeale and affection towardes mee: I haue embouldened my self to begynne in this sorte.

Ffirste, that consideringe there hathe bene divers Parlyamentes, houlden in that Realme of Ireland, (by sundry wyse and discreete noble men there, governing, tendinge to the advauncement and furtherance of that Comon Wealth. The Actes of which; theire seuerall cessions before them houlden, I am suer appereth at Lardge; which no doubt if they had bene duly effected, ffrom tyme to tyme. (accordinge the makers good meaninges: the Realme of Ireland coulde neuer haue growne thus owt of fframe., wherfore I shall desyer you, if you haue harde, or canne by your small contynvance there, acquaynt me, with some efficient causes, that hath breadd these calamities, I wilbe verry well contented to give you the hearinge.

Peregryn

Truly brother those be matters, farre overeachinge my groase capacitie: but yet emongst my noates I will shewe you one, beinge the opinion of an oulde man of the English Pale, whose chaunce it was to come to myne hoastes house in Dublin, accompanied with three or fower of his neighbours; who after dynner, talking of theire greate hinderances in this broken tyme: and he beinge Cock of that comepany, beganne in this manner.,


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I remember sayeth hee, that within these threescore yeares, it was not tollerable emongst vs of the English Pale, to permit or suffer, any of the O Neales, O donelles, maguyers, mc mahowndes, o realies or any other Irish borderer to Inhabit emongst vs: by which meanes, wee weare so fast tyed in Consanguintie, alliaunce and amitie, one to another that it was as harde a matter to snapp a shefe of Arrowes in pieces, beinge fast bownde togither at one Instant force; as to separate our generall resolucion, to attempt any daunger in the princes behalf whatsoeuer; I neede not to fetch our ensample so far, as Edwarde the Seconde tyme, (all Irelande yealdinge to the Scot Edwarde le Bruse (savinge our Awncestors of the Englishe Pale; which stuck to the Lorde Justice brimdgham in that manner (beinge the last carde in the buntch) that by theire meanes the prowde scot and his army was ouerthrowne, At Carickbraddogh not far from Dundalk, And also in the lord Leonarde Greaies tyme by Ardee, Against Oneale and all his power of the North: and diuers tymes sithence to longe to rehearse.

But now within these fewe yeares: by the Instigacion of the devill, the wicked & covetous personne: that had more reguarde of his owne private gayne, then respect to the comon wealth, his offspringe and neighbors, made fosteridge, gossipred and marriadges with the Irish aforesaid: which strange monsters (contrary to the statutes) and our Awncestors leaste meaninges, once crept in emongst vs) it became so generall, that glad was hee, that might first retayne them to Inhabit under themselues., but marke, what mischief hath ensued thereof; which wee and others of latter tymes, that haue bene here established by her maiestie, and her predecessors doe now to late repent the reasonnes whereof; accordinge to my groase skill are presentely as followeth.

Ffirst by reasonne of combynacion, with the Irish as aforesaide, in crept theire languadge to be allmoste generall emongst vs, & that within a shorte


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{folio 344r} tyme scorninge our oulde English speech, which our Awncestors brought with them at the first conquest, thincking it to base, by reasonne whereof; we thought our selues mightly well appoynted: to be armed with two languadges: so that beinge thus furnished, we were able to goe into the Irish countries: and truck with them: comoditie for comoditie: (which they in former tymes were driven to bringe theires vnto vs) and either bought ours againe with the mony they receaued for it: or bartered ware for ware for ware, by an Interpreter., Now this kynde of Intercourse with the Irish, breadde such acquayntance amitie and frendship betwene them and vs, beinge so furnisht with theire landuadge, that wee cared not contrary to our duties, in ballauncinge our credittes, to make fosterifge, gossipredes, and marridges, as aforesaid with them (so that now the English pale, and many other places of the kingdome, that were planted with English, at seuerall conquestes: are growne to a confusion of septes., most of the porte townes, plannisht with merchantes of that kynde.

Secondly when we were acquaynted, with the Irish reteigned emongst vs, as a nomeber of others, by reasonne of Intercourse into theire countries: And for that wee are nyer and better acquaynted with the estate, then they are., we must stand as advocates, ffor them, they prefer to foster vnto vs, where there sundry condicions in that league:

Fosterers

The ffirst is miltch nvrses, that fostereth vpp our children with theire breastes, and any chylde that is so taken with, must haue as good a porcion (landes excepted) as any of the fosterers children, and this Irish mylke: worketh such effect in our children, that are so fostered, that moste of them neuer careth for Englishmen, or English civilitie euer afterwardes, for they make so greate accompt of theire fosterfather, fostermother, fosterbrethern


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{folio 344v} and foster sisters: that any thinge that is within theire Reaches, to be compassed they will not stick to effect, (allthough many of them, should bringe themselues, within the daunger of the halter (which many tymes they doe, by bearinge such Affection, to that sorte of people who naturally are euill: And as for the ffemymyne foster chylde, she mist not onely haue a fosterchyldes parte at her fosterfathers deathe (but a helpe when she is marryed besydes.

The Seconde kynde of fosterers, are of the meaner sorte of people, and these beinge poore tenantes, cloaze in with theire landlordes, and to curry favour with them, take with one of the children, and promissieth him a chyldes porcion, and this is called a dry fosterer (of which sorte) one chylde may haue a dozen, theise looke also for some extraordynary kynde of favour, at theire landlord, and foster sonnes handes (but yet nothinge in measure, to the first fosterer., for theise kynde of people desyrethe help, but for petty matters.

The thirde is muche lyke the laste, but beinge of a better callinge (combyneth nor taketh with none) but with greate mens children, (Aswell for that hee must give a lardge porcion, with his fostersonne: And having his matters and suites (in courte as otherwyse, of greate effect, then the meaner fosterer hath (which must be followed ( ad omnia quare) by those he taketh with (be the cause good or bad (or els hee will slipp his headd forthe of the collor and cry. A new master, a New, for a nomeber of these cannot drinck of all water (yet verry bountyfull if you please theire humours (which happely may bringe theire patrones to play the barrysters.

The fourthe is a man, that by greate industrye and paynes, is growne to be wealthy, and willingly if he might, would be contented, to live honestly of his owne, withowt entermeddlinge, with other mens matters: but beinge so aspyred, and his name in no greate requeste, beinge


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{folio 345r} taught by other mens harmes to by wyse, with his wealth; forseing that warynes cannot serve his turne, if envy and covetousnes, pry into his estate (and especially when those two capitall synnes: are lodged in mr countenance; whose nature beinge so Armed: still shooteth at the Inocent to bereaue him bothe of landes, goodes and lyfe to: If he be not the sooner prevented (and his hungry guarge crammed for speedy redresse whereof, this fourth fosterer: knowinge his neighbour countenances hvmor., ffrankly taketh with his master his eldest sonne and heire. And assurthe hym of a chyldes porcioon, after his death, and an yearely anuytye during his lyfe; by which costly shift, hee is enrowled in master Countenances Checque (as one of his deere ffrends, and defended in all kyndes of extremytyies.

Here be a fifth kynde of fosterers: and they take not onely with one chylde: but with my master and all his whole houshould, and theise pay mr maynteigner, contynvally with the sweate of other mennes browes (and if any of theise kitchen fosterers come vnder coram (he mr maingtener will labour verry hard, but he will get them at liberty agayne: vpon easy bandes. And yet carieth not a poynte; to forfeict xxli, rather then a meane rascall of that coare, shoulde once come in daunger of the lawe. (there be of theise kynde of people, that bringeth in better stuffe then kitchin matters, and they take prisoners to rawnsome, for mony, apparell, victuall, and any other necessaryes, as powder, mvncion and such lyke, (of which ill gotten pelfe, mr maytneigner hath his childrens partes: And thus much ffor fosterers.

Gossipridde

Then to say somethinge of Gossepride a moste pestylent monster to a comon wealth, then fosteriidge is, (though that be bad enough: And of that there be fower kyndes

The first and moste tollerablst is at the fynt stoane., wherein is a shew of Christianytie and called Publique Gossiprid, and in great


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{folio 345v} reputacion emongste the Irish (whose comon oathe is, either by theire lordes, or Christian gossips hande, (when this sacrament is performed, the Irish embouldeneth himself, greately vppon any personne, that he hathe so combyned himself with, aswell of the preferringe of his sonnes, daughters, and frendes, to services emongst vs, as otherwyse we muste be helpinge of any such, in any necessary suites: for doinge whereof, Now and then, some curteous present is sent vs, And to confirme the premisses, the better, wee must not shew ourselues so vnkynde, but make gossipride with the apurtenances besydes, & so much for the fiirste.

The seconde gossipride is by breakinge of breade betwene partie and partie: and in this is concluded some smack of mischief intended, which; when any such matter falleth owt, we must doe our best endeavour to remedy the same: for entermedlinge with which sometymes wee are taken vp for halting, yet we neuer come in daunger as wee thinck, till venias mecum ?onceth?: and still for our paynes some salary cometh for playinge the bolsterers.

The thirde gossipride is, by seuerall oathes voluntarie taken, betwene partie and partie, for the fullfillinge of any covenant betwene them., though it smell as farre as felony, and then sometymes we bringe our selues in daunger to play the barristers.

The fourth and last poynte of Gossipride cannot be thoroughly effected, but by abusinge the holy sacrament of the comvnion: which all parties in that league combyned (most receaue the same to confirme any thinge, that is or shalbe from thence forth, agreed vppon, betwene them, yea though it smell of rebellion, murder, threasonne, burninges etc or any other capitall degree of what nature soeuer, so that by the illusion,


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{folio 346r} of the deuill, whereas that holy sacrament was instituted by Chryste; to the salvacion of the worthy receauer, is by such people as these, converted to the distruccion bothe of body and soulde to as many as vseth this kynde of Gossipride, form the which kynde of combynacion the Lord deliuer vs.

Then last of all. when we haue thoroughly performed, these ceremonies aforesaid, yet that cannot be thought sufficient unles we marry one with another, And there cometh in kinred, Allyance and affynitie of bludd, and then when this mixture hath taken thorough roote, we ffeare not any daunger whatsoeuer, but whylest we thinck our selues in greatest securitie, owt startes our fosterers, gossips and Allies, of the Irish pale into rebellion, and then some of vs, that haue traced these galliardes aforesaid, must adventure our selues in respect of the premisses, to be assistant vnto them, aswell private and publique, though we venture both lyfe, goodes, landes, and perpetuall Infamy besydes, yet you must vnderstand, I speake not this onely of the English Pale, but of all other partes of the Realme where Englishmen haue bene planted, Well accordinge to our tenvres, we are called to serve against the Enemy: and then not as we were wont to doe in proceedinge tymes (as formerly I repeated beinge compared to a sheafe of Arrowes of one makinge: but lyke a field of corne all overgrowne with wiedes: beinge so troubled in our myndes, how to make choyce of our enemies to fight with, many of them beinge our fosterers, gossips and Allies, so that


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{folio 346v} whylest we stand amased with these kynd of fantasies (not tymely considering our duties to our prince) preferringe our own tradicions, before god and religion, the Enemy in whom no kynde of synne or breach of promis is respected, taketh his oportvnitie, to murder, burne prea and spoyle vs to our castell walles, wysely (if one may so terme it) serving his owne turne, and neuer lyke to happen otherwyse for there is not a greater hiprocrit in the worlde then the meere Irish man is who observeth his fastes, and babling with his mouthe he knoweth not what (as though he were devocion it self) but let his cosen, his brother, yea if it were his father crosse him in any thinge; then as the English northerne phrase is, ensveth deadly fude, what hath bene the ouerthrowe of mounster, Connaght, and ulster to; in ould tyme, as English as the best, but the aforesaid three monsters (as they are vsed) fosteridge, gossipride and marridge: And after followeth Leimpster to as fast as they canne, we may take ensample of three places in this kingdome; to learne to avoyde these inconveyences, Looke but into the county of Wexforde where moste parte of the gentillmen of that country, and the successors of the first English conquerors, reteigning as yet, theire ould English tongue, which argueth theire litle combynacion, with the Cavenaghes and other the Irish borderers: being allwaies vppon their Jackes: the citizens of Waterforde will scarcely match, or marry with any strangers; but the Towne of Gallway in Connaght, will neither marry with any stranger nor by theire good willes, suffer any to

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{folio 347r} dwell emongst them., for no doubt if they had combyned themselues, with the generall ould Inhabitantes of the country aboute them, in manner as aforesaid: they might happely have mourned with the towne of Athenry, who hath allmoste lost all her faier apparell, except her faier girdle of stoane, but they be of sundry septes, and match within themselues, and for theire dayly and strict warde at theire gates, it passeth all the rest, for let him be what he will, if the portes be once shutt, he must tarry, mr maiors leysure, And I ensuer you those three places aforesaid, setteth vs down a right patterne how we should shape our garmentes.

I had allmoste forgotten, the county of Ormonde which aboue all other places in Irelande, moste representeth the shew of a comon wealth, for therein; are many faier townes, the Inhabitantes whereof, are contynually exercysed, in makinge of Caddowes, blancketes, mantles of all sotes, rugges freises, and any other comoditie that the country doth yield, by reasonne whereof, the country men haue mony for theire comodities, youth trayned vpp to learne to live, when they come to ryper yeares; and for that both there; in the citty of Waterforde and other good townes, the weomen are the ouerseers and chiefest doers in these exercyses, the men traffick for England, ffraunce, Spaigne & flanders, and to other places where the comodities, are moste vendible, havinge many faiers in that country besides where much is vttered, And for that they are contynuall dealers, with merchantes and others of England, whereby groweth acquayntance.


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A nomeber of theire children, are brought vp in diuers, citties and townes there, who scorneth not to get theire livinges, and so it is in many other places of the west besydes, as Limberick, Corck, Killmalock, Yoghall and others which follow the same order, that those of the townes of Ormonde dothe, but not so generall.

Now happely it may be said, why should not all other countries besydes, of that kingdome, be brought to the lyke stay that those westerne places are, to that I awnswere that as it shoulde seme, the Erles of Ormonde discending of English bloud, and noble from the first, brought ouer in theire comepanies many gentlemen, and others of meaner sorte, as merchantes, handycraftes men, and others: who not cominge ouer for a monethe; but for euer, first strengthened themselues by fortfyinge of many townes, which as I haue said before, are good stoare in that country, which was not onely a defence for theire personnes, if the Irish whom they cam to subdue (had bene able to kepe the field, but a succor for theire people and goodes., who might apply theire trades and craftes, withowt any impeachment of the enemy, which was an especial ocasion to abandon idlenes, the chiefest maistris, that attends vpon the meere Irish.

Ffor they for the moste parte, are all gentillmen and beggers: for they will say we may not worke, for that we are men of name and landes, In deede, many of them, haue verry greate lyvinges, for in most places emongst them they devyde their landes by gauell kynde; so that if a man haue twelve sonnes, and


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{folio 348r} but one plough land euery chylde muste haue a share; so that in myne owne knowledge there be many of the chiefest bloudd of the Irish: have now scarce a good garden plot for theire shares, yet will not settle themselues to any honest trade.

There is a statute that the Irish lordes and gentillmen that houlde theire landes in this kynde, might appeale to the lord deputy and councell, and haue it graunted, vnder the broade seale, houldinge theire landes from her maiestie, as the manner of England is, from the father to the eldest sonne, and to his heire etc., which no doubt was enacted to a verry good purpose, that the rest of the bretheren or children, might apply themselues to live as in other good comon wealthes, but that as it falleth owt, did more hurt then good, except order had bene taken, that the terrytory lordes, shoulde haue bene forcid, to haue erected some stronge market townes in each of theire countries, accordinge to theire scoapes of landes, to haue trayned vpp theire youth as formerly is spoken of. In Ormond for now havinge neither landes, nor good educacion, they must needes follow theire oulde occupacions of filtchinge & stealinge: and from ii criminall factes into rebellion, to the which poynt it is now come to., there is neuer a one of these terrytory lordes. But if I were able to be harde, but should put in two principall pledges, aswell for the performance of her maiesties peace, quiet of all the well meaninge subiect, as the performinge and accomplishinge, of all the said market townes, for the purposes aforesaid, all which, if any of them did not performe, accordinge as it shoulde be laid downe, by the higher powers, I woulde hange vp one of his pledges, and take


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{folio 348v} vp another in place of him that was strangled, secondly, if he made default, vse him that cam in first with the lyke measure, and take in another (so that I would be suer that all my stringes should not faiele me at once, And if this would not serve, to force him & his countrie, to live as subiectes, bereaue him or them of their territories, with all his maynteigners and abettors, and bestowe it vppon such; that will put in sufficient securitie, to performe truly all covenantes beeseeminge, I canne tell you frendes and neighbours, that want of good take heede in tyme: hath bene the onely cause of these generall mischief.

Well now I caste at Monnsieur Tyroane, and then an ende; It is not vnknowne vnto vs all, that be here, how graciously and bountifully the noble Queene Elizabeth, hath delt with that Archtraitor, first raysinge him vp, from the dunghill, to the type and name of an Erle, the countenancinge him with horse and fote in pay, notwithstandinge he had livinge to much before, No honour was to much to bestowe, vppon this shameles companion. (who when ensample of most duty and thanckfullnes, should haue bene, expected, for her maiesties greate graces bestowed vppon him, he lyke an hippocriticall backslyder, havinge filled his cofers, with her maiesties coyne, stoared him self with furnyture, aswell forth of her maiesties office of ordynance, as from such creakers as served vnder him and Tirlagh Lenogh, in theire civill contencions, which kynde of freebootinge Capten with theire comepanies tollerated to reare and take vp Irish soldiers was the chiefest cause of martiall dyscyplyne emongst them, and then the castinge away of the Spannyardes vppon the coastes of Odonell country and


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{folio 349r} his, brought both mony and furnyture, And to shew himself cvnninge in his intended villany, how fynely he could haue leade transported owt of Englande, to cover his castell of Dvngannon, as he alleadged., (which in effect was the leaste parte of his meaninge, but provyded to worke some mischief agaynst his soueraigne, who had elevated him so high, that beinge furnished as aforesaid, with the help of Odonell, magwier the ringleader and the whole power of the northe (beinge as honest men as himself with the help of other southerne and westerly rebelles, hath well declared, what an honest man he is.

Well to be shorte those Northerne miscreantes, within these fewe yeares, knew not what the due order of fighting was and now it is a professed arte emongst the cowheardes of Vlster, God send some Good man to vnarme these roages (and put them to cow kepinge againe, for any other worke that is good they canne doe none., hemb them in with stronge townes at Collrane, the dirry, Duneluce, Clonarne, Olderfleete, and other necessary places, that the traffick that the scot hath with them may to turned to our profittes, doe the same at balleyshannon, and other necessarie places in Odonnelles country, and when the intercourse of strangers is taken from them, front them with stronge garrysonnes ffrom dundalk to the edge of Orowrkes country, and cut of the intercourse that theire kinsmen the merchantes (black and grey) that dwelleth emongst ourselues haue with them, for they are the master Badgers that help them at a pinch, with wyne, aquavitie, salt weapones, mvnicion, powder, apparrell, and other necessaries (and so doth the scot to, all which beinge but a small tyme


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{folio 349v} taken away, from them, they will breake theire hartes and bellyes with eatinge shamrockes, water cresses, stinckinge butter and drincking vsyne Tubber., for the best sorte cannot live withowt sack, and aquavitie: And then they may lay vpp theire staple of hydes, tallow, and yarne, vntill the yeare of Jubile, And so for the rest of the manner, for the conqueringe of those Infidelles, I referre it to wyser mens braynes then myne owne. And yet thanckes be to god, allthough our cosens of the English Pale, haue bene scovrged in respect of theire extraordynary combynacion, yet haue they stood somewhat piller lyke, in these tymes of trouble, And so I end at this tyme, besechinge the allmighty to restoare, this forgrowne, estate to a perfect comonwealth, when his goodnes shall see tyme.

Peregryn

Now brother, how lyke you this oulde fellow of the English Pale.

Silvyn

I promis you I lyke him well for his playne dealinge; for he hath shewed many good reasons, that hath bene the overthrowe of that country, and some meanes presently how it may be remedied if matters were put in execucion: which nowe cannot easely be effected, withowt greate chardges of men victualles and mony. And sufficient personnes to mannadge the services with uprightnes, aswell forseinge that euery man haue his due., accordinge to equitie and justice: as on the contrary receavinge the same in that measure, faiele not to acomplish any thinge, that is beseeminge; vpon payne of extreame pvnishment, by the law to be


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{folio 350r} ministered, but now I thinck you haue allmoste made an ende.

Peregryn

Even savinge a litle, towchinge the soldier revolted to the enemy and so an ende.

Silvyn

I pray you say on; for I longe to here what they canne say for themselues.

Peregryn

It is was my chaunce to be at an ordinary in Phillipstowne, where some of the owt start Oconnors and others, that had served longe tyme in her maiesties Garrysonne bandes (beinge then protected (came in for some refreashing for theire mony, at which tyme there chaunced to be two strangers & myself: yet they were well acquaynted with them., and emongst other talk the elder of the two, demaunded of them why they had forsaken theire alledgiances to her maiesty,

With that; one emongst the rest made awnswer; in the excurse of himself and companions, & said, that theire officers misvsed them, theire Captens stole theire pay, and if they chaunced to get a ticket in a yeare or two, it was a greate favour, as they thought, but beinge so obteigned they were driven to sell them to some clarke or merchant for half stake, and how those two kynde of petty foggers, shift for the other moitye, I referre to such, that hath better skill therein then I haue, but we all that haue served in bandes are assured the Quenes maiesty payeth the whole: Also we were kept shorte for our victuallinge mony, so that lyinge


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{folio 350v} in Townes, and not victualled by the stoare; when we had no mony, we coulde neither get cloathes to vppon credit to kepe our bodyes from weather, nor scarce victualles to houlde lyfe and soulde togither, so that we were compelled, by the negligence of such, that shoulde haue supplyed our wantes with the premisses, to rely vnto the rebelles, for vnder theire protection, we are lycensed to live as Libertynes without conptrolment.

Then falles he in hand with a younglinge, that had bene a merchantes mans servaunt, what ocasion he had to follow that course of lyfe; to whom he made awnswere, that he thought it a better gaine to be clarke to CC men, and to haue two shillinges a meale, and three shillinges for wrytinge of a letter, then to follow tadey maley his horse heeles. 9

Then the younger of the two, strangers fell in hande with a principall vyper emongst them, that had served longe in her maiesties pay in some reputacion, and demaunded of him why of all men: he would forsake her maiestie having bene so well delt with him.

Tush, quoth he; when the Capten hath a shorte band, and hath poasted away his Englishmen, he must needes of necessitie make vp his nomeber, what shift soeuer he makes, and then he sendes forth his scowtes, to harken where any of our sorte are, to be enterteigned who at length cvninge in that faculty, understandes of some xx or thirty of our sorte, whose behaviour hath bene such, that they may not come in withowt a protection; for the present, and after theire pardonnes (which matter is perfourmed with all expedicion, neither serchinge after any of bringing vp, either of our parentes or


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{folio 351r} kinred, our honesties, our able boddies to fight, the handlinge of our weapones, or zeale to the Queenes maiestie, (proceedinge no father then to serue his owne turnes. And truly for ould acquayntance sake I will be playne with you. It is your owne selues, that hath brought vs vpp to this passe, that feelinge now by your meanes, we haue gotten knowledge to fight, furnyture and weapons to defend ourselues, and offende our gaynsayers: having a meete comepany to accumulate, and gather the riches of the country withowt resistaunce, we haue no reasonne to the contrary, but to take our tyme: and to be a people of ourselues Irish, and not to be commaunded by the English, for we haue borne theire yoake to longe., And one woulde will not prea vppon his lyke; Nor we hurete one another in generall, and now our faction is growne greate, wee loke to be masters of our land in Aphaley or euer it be longe. And if it fall not owt to our expectacion, there be a nvmeber of vs, that canne make frendes to come in againe, And the service well accepted at his handes that will present vs, For I knowe a nomeber my self that hath bene at the actinge of greate matters and yet huddld vp: and receaued in againe to supply voyde roomes. So that you may see: how Englishmen may be blynded. And those companies that be in the Queenes maiesties pay now, what are they I pray you, but moste Irishmen (except such as lately came forthe of Englande piccardy, for we are not Ignorant that by the statute there shoulde but six Ireland men in a band of a hundreth, and that of English race to, And now it is a greate matter if

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{folio 351v} a band haue studd, one yeare in pay and especially employed in service, if the Capten haue twelue Englishmen in his Cth, And be you assured of this that we can comaunde, a nomeber of our countrey men that are in pay, to come to vs at our pleasure, but we let them stay there, vntill we see tyme, which we doe in pollycy to worke your greater woe, for it must be them nvsled vp in your bosomes, that must devoure you. I could say more but I may not for certaine causes and with that worde they all departed the house.

Silvyn

Now I ensuer you brother, there is some groase kynde of dealinge in that land, in whom soeuerr the fault is, to suffer her maiesties ffourceis, to be chosen owt of so wicked a people (whose country beinge the verry picture of Idlenes it self (except in few places) there canne be neither an ende of warrs: nor meanes to reduce that state to civilitie, as longe as they are suffered to remayne armed. But what saith the muster master to it for he is a man of greate experience.

Peregryn

I had neuer any conference with him my self nor with any of his officers, but I haue sene some that hath had speeches, with some of his new fraternitie of commissaries towchinge the allowinge of so many Irishmen: theire awnswere was that they did nothinge but by warrant which was bothe sufficient for their master and themselues, for you must thinck that they haue a care of themselues


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{folio 352r} But yet one pretty trick I hard of, That when some pauper gentillman is willinge and desyrous to be a capten and maketh greate frendes to attayne therevnto, and his advocates beinge demaunded, by such as are in aucthoritie, how he canne reare his company, of Cth or Ltie men, as the partie is in favour, to haue either more or less: tush say they that is the least care of a thowsand: he cannot want men., then beinge once graunted a chardge owt goeth a scowt as formerly I tould you and he bringth in a scvm of sconderelles, who must be furnished owt of her maiesties stoare. forthwith but for any service many of them will doe (except a litle for manner sake to bringe themselues in theire Captens lykinge theire meaninge be least. And thus is the good Quene Elizabeth, bereaued of her threasure, victualles, apparrell and mvnicion, with allmost the subuersion of that kingdome, by these vnnecessaye dealinges.

Silvyn

As I haue said before: I am right hartely sorry, that the Good Quene shoulde be delt with in this manner, And grieued I am to here, that which I haue harde, I pray god shall (sic) amended for I perceaue these fellowes in rebellion (nor many of these miscreantes in pay neither, wilbe driven to throwe away their weapons, for the sight of our whips, as the Scithians made theire bondsmen doe, at their cominge forthe of Asia, for they beinge longe abroade in the warrs, (moste of theire wyues thinking they had bene slaigne or dead, marryed themselues


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{folio 352v} to their bondsmen, but when contrary to theire expectacion, they harde theire masters were drawinge homewardes, in steade as receauing them, salvted them with Armour and weapons, but the poore sclaues, when they espied their masters throwinge a syde theire weapons, and them to theire whipps, a medecyne that they had often tasted of before. Away some ranne; the rest submitted themselues to theire masters and glad to take the yoake of bondage: vppon them againe. How say you brother, will your Irish vassalles, be brought to trace this gallyard.

Peregryn

No I warrant you., for these fellow will not be scared with weaponnes, much lesse with whipps, and as for their peces, murrions, and swordes, they farr passe our mens for the moste parte, bothe in goodnes and well kepinge, I pray God loke vppon our deere bretheren there if it be his pleasure, And suffer them not to fall into theire handes, as our predeccessors did in ffraunce, in Henry the VIth tyme, after that diuers provinces there, had remayned many yeares in our handes, some by inheritance, and others got with the sworde, with the losse of many a mans lyfe, and yet all gon ffrom vs in a moment, And in the same manner went Callice too. In Quene Maries tymes; after it remaygned Ccxxtie yeares in our possession, being a yeare agettinge, by the renowned Kinge Edward the thirde, and lost againe in eight daies, I pray God those may serve for ensamples, towchinge the better keepinge of Irelande, beinge the parte (allthough chardgeable) that doth serve for a back armour to England.

Silvyn

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{folio 353r} Brutes of Wales, to loke aboute them, more then they doe now. Well brother I perceaue you are now drawinge to an ende.

Peregryn

Well Brother I haue deteigned you a greate whyle, with this my Ireland newes. And now will ende with this one ensample.

A chief piller of myne sometymes, havinge had good experience, aswell by travaiele as otherwyse to give a sownde Judgement, concerninge matters of estate, havinge one other in his comepany besydes my self., fortvned emongst other matters (then fittinge for the tyme, to discourse of certaine services effected in the Ile of Creete alias Candie. I served sometymes saieth he: vnder Counte Peter, and Counte Sebastian Generalles, at suerall tymes of the Venecians Armyes, both by sea and lande, for the space of six yeares, against the enemies of that estate, beinge chiefly the Turke, but emongst all theire warrs, they were moste troubled with the Cretans (a province belonginge to the said Venecians; for they a greate tyme togither, had waged the country people there, (as we vse in Ireland now) aswell to warre against forreigne Enemies, as otherwyse against some of that nacion which did rebell. the chieftains of which comotion, were certaine Bishops of beinge nobly borne of the Greeke and Latyne churches, who many tymes bickeringe with the venecians deputies there, sometymes to theire gayne, sometymes to theire losse, At length not prevaylinge to theire expectacion, drew in the turkes, who burned one of theire chiefest citties called Rethimo, but made no longe stay there, after the doinge thereof. For which fact, emongst others by them comitted, they loked for no mercy, if they were subdued by the deputy there: And therefore as a people disparringe, gaue out by way of proclamacion, liberty to all cretans, that would take parte


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{folio 353v} with them, for the bannishinge of the Venecians. And the spoyle of all such, as might not be reduced to take theire partes, with promis besydes, that when the Conquest, and reformacion obteigned, every man a porcion of land, accordinge to his estate and desert, wherevppon the moste parte of such as had bene longe tyme in pay, with the venecians, by whole flockes revolted to the bishopps syde (to the greate weakeninge of the deputy there (wherevppon; and for redresse thereof ( least all should goe to wrack, he certified the duke and state of Vennyce what chaunces were theire befallen, who vppon the said intelligences (Addressed the aforesaid Counte Peter with a puissant army from Vennyce, to salue vp that soare, who at his cominge into Creete, dallyed not with the rebelles, with light skirmishes to weare owt his men (beinge far of be supplied: but preferred them battell which they accepted; and were cleane overthrowne. And vanquished; theire noble men or bishops, taken and crucified, who songe psalmes vnto the deathe, the revoltinge soldiers, miserably tormented and slaigne, And for that the Venecians would be troubled with the lyke rebellions no more, toke all theire warlyke people with their wyves children and servantes and shipped them, for other coulder countries where they had government, leavinge them to settle themselues to live, which was sawer a sawce to them as theire owne Iland of Creete, called the garden of Euroape was sweete: and in theire places sent some of theire owne country people: and so beinge placed a farre of were neuer in hoape to retourne to theire owne country againe, I beseech the

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{folio 354r} Lorde and that with speede sende thither, a peter, a paule, a Robert, or of any other name whatsoeuer, so that he may rid that pore countrie of Ireland, of all those cursed rabble, and carry or sende them some way, that they may never be harde of agayne, and plant better in theire romes, And even so good brother Silvynne, I ende with my Irelande occurrances.

Silvyn

ffor your greate paynes taken, herein, I doubt not, but the honest subiect, will give you your due, and as for my self, havinge receaued the first taste thereof, I yield you a thowsandes thanckes, and so Adieu., but yet could I wish that the rebell of necessitie (that haue bene drawne forcibly into accion, by the voluntary rebell (shoulde be assisted vppon his Inocency, & maynteigned to serve against the other.

Finis God Saue The Queene